NIST_20020305-1007
NIST_20020305-1007
1019: um one i- oh- one thing that was going to have
to come up is uh
2019: the one guiding principle that we need and we're
going to need input from this group
3019: sometime relatively soon not immediately is a
map.
4019: We thought that that is something that's been
missing from one of the open houses that was at another,
5028: %mmm-hmm
6019: so that everyone's told go to this place and
this is the start of the tour and until then they won't know
what's going on.
7005: %mmm
8002: mm
9019: But we'll have some kind of a map that'll say if
you go to this room you're going to see these projects and
these are the people who are in charge.
10003:
11002: mm-hmm
12005: %mmm
13019: And we can discuss what the content of that kind
of a map would be, but %um I think that's the one thing
14019: *cause I sort of like I go through a room. It's
like
15019:
16019: where do I go now? we all know exactly where our
spaces are, but people who are coming from across the street
or downstairs or something won't know where we consider our
labs to be even.
17029:
18005: %hmm
19028:
20002: yeah
21002: mm-hmm
22003:
23005: also just having kind of orientation rooms, the
place that people start, and we can advertize that in the
posters or the emails that we send out draw.
24002: mm-hmm
25019: we can also put the food there
26005: and we can put food and a info sheet information
sheet that says the rooms that we have the demos and you know
what project or what program is b being demo'd at that
room.
27019:
28005: and kind of a contact person for that project.
and so everybody come that room and grab one sheet and there
they know where to go when
29003:
30019: and it think it's important that that p maybe we
should have little things on our badges or something that
flag us as the responsible person for
31019: i walked up to a lot of things where
32028:
33019: I didn't know who to talk with about it, and
maybe I came a little late, and they felt that all the really
interested people had already been there. I don't know.
34002: mm-hmm
35005: or maybe we a and we can ask all the staff of
one project to around the posters or the you know the station
of that project is being *demo'd
36005: at least one person or two persons should be
there at all the time, so as soon as somebody approach to
that poster or that station he or she can start explaining
it.
37002: mm
38019: *s'right
39003: you can
40002: I think i think i like the badge idea I think
that's a good idea to uh because we have f- a whole bunch of
people floating around you don't know who's staff and whose
visiting and um
41005:
42005: mmm
43019: right, bu- there just people I don't know
44002: yeah
45003: but you can also put outside of each lab area
that has demos
46003: a big poster not a real big one but saying
47003: what the name of the room is what the name of
the lab is what demos or posters are in that room
48002: mm
49019: {thoatclear
50003: and the people that are there to help you do
whatever you want so when there walking down the hall and if
they don't have their map or
51005:
52003: they lost their map or something they see
something and then they can go in because they know where
where the stuff is
53019: right
54002: yeah actually I could almost see the the map as
being a like uh a sheet of paper with short abstracts about
each of the the projects you know who the contacts are
55019: that's a good idea
56028: mmhmm
57002: and a couple of sentences what the project is
about where it's located post that on the door of each of the
rooms and highlight the one that's in that room
58003: right
59003: right
60019: mmhmm good idea
61002: hmm
62019:
63019: good idea
64029: if you want multiple people from each group
doing these things and
65019: oh kay
66003:
67029: multiple posters and demos which I wa-
understood, I don't see how that can all happen within one
lab
68028: mmhmm
69019: okay %uh how would you %um
70028:
71019:
72029:
73019: yeah
74003: }
75019:
76005:
77006:
78002:
79029: I had assumed that we would be sort of be doing
a demo and maybe one poster in our lab, but the other ones
would have to spill out into the hallway or into office or
something.
80028: mmhmm
81019: that's perfectly reasonable too
82029: okay
83019: perfectly reasonable
84019: I'd think that we'd probably want to use the
wall space around the focal lab for related things
85019: but that could be put on the map and say I don't
know you could even draw a picture here's the wall here and
you're going to see this thing and here's the wall here and
you see this.
86029:
87029: okay
88019: but I would like to have people standing next to
those things
89019: there's nothing worse than going to a conference
and you actually get yourself up to go to the poster
session
90019: and then you just sort of walk around and read
posters. I can do that. But it the interesting thing is being
there and having the give and take with the person who's
actually responsible for the work.
91028:
92002: mm-hmm
93019: so
94019: I found that, as a very super junior person, the
most interesting kind of thing, *cause you get a lot of
feedback, and people will be willing to talk down to the
95002:
96019: whenever you program this you can do it this
way, instead of these big global ideas about where your
project goes, but if you want to talk about that you can
97029:
98019:
99019: get so much out of a poster kind of session
100019: so these are the programs
101005:
102005: %uh for the smart space %uh I believe most of
the things that we can demo at smart space are here in the
meeting room too, right
103019: where do I fit oh
104028:
105019:
106002: "/>hasn't actually run any demos in here but
I suppose it's possible
107005: so
108005:
109005: uh- th- th- uh- the demo is using the mic array
for running a speech recognizer so, except that, anything
else, the smart flow can be a poster demo around here the
microphone array can be a smart %uh s- poster demo, so
110002: mm-hmm
111005: %uh ^Vince comes at ten. I'll go and talk to
him. But perhaps we can use smart smart space for that
purpose and have all the demos of smart space here in meeting
room
112028:
113019:
114005: %uh if you think it's reasonable
115006:
116019:
117002: so u- u- u- you proposing that smart space is
the central meeting place er
118003:
119005: now for the orientation room where we would
where the people go and get that info sheet because we also
need
120029:
121002: okay is u- u- I don't know if if we would want
people streaming in and out of that room is kind of cramped
there's a lot of stuff laying around
122028:
123005: %uh with the _A_M_T the mmhmm
124002: um I was almost think having people start down
in the employee lounge area
125029: today
126003: right did
127029: the ^Byte ^Size ^Lounge
128006: the +venting area mm-hmm
129029:
130003: right
131005: adi m peri lahnd
132003: that would have the food and th- beverages and
maps and
133019: which lounge
134029: the ^Byte ^Size ^Lounge
135005: oh
136019:
137029:
138019: oh, cool, yeah, I forgot about that
139005: oh
140006: where the vending area is
141028: employee lounge
142029: I
143002: i call it employee lounge but I mean that's yeah
by- byte size room
144019:
145006:
146019: yeah, the ^Byte ^Size ^Lounge, I know
147003:
148005:
149028: which one is that? the first one?
150029: th- it's official
151006: yeah the +venti- where the vending machines are
at the end of the hallway
152029: it s- has ^Byte ^+Size
153019: ^Byte ^Size ^Lounge
154005:
155028: oh yeah
156003:
157019:
158029:
159019: oh, that's a good idea
160005: that's
161003: you learn something new everyday
162005:
163006:
164029:
165006:
166028:
167005:
168003: I can go home now
169002:
170005:
171029:
172003:
173029:
174006:
175003:
176028:
177019:
178029:
179019: so we could do the registra- and that's good
that's right at the entrace to the buil-
180003: yeah, we can put a couple tables out there,
yo
181002: yeah
182019: the place where most people cn-
183019: yeah
184003: if you have %ahm
185029:
186029:
187003: like abstracts or anything else you can have
sheets of paper
188028:
189003: about the different demos and stuff like that so
people can take piec- you know the the explanations and then
go to the rooms with the maps
190002: mm-hmm
191019: sure
192028: and I think we should call for maybe a different
entrance because some people may come in from the other door
I mean w- th- th- the employee lounge it is good k. is a
suggestion
193019: that's good
194005: that's right
195028: I think if ahb dee uh
196028:
197028: %uh you know participant are coming in, I would
really prefer like the idea of like having a single sheet of
%uh a map location that where each of the %uh %uh the
projects
198028: and just maybe have a list of the projects
because if like
199028: if I only have one hour I know y- this call one
eleven to one or two or whatever but you've only got I only
got one hour I would like to look at the list of the
programs
200003: mmm hmm
201005: two hour
202005:
203002: mm-hmm
204028: which one's more uh vah liv and may- w- which
one is more interest to me
205028: or I could go to this one this is like right
here room number ff-
206003: right
207028: two oh ff- whatever
208028: so like th- the map will have %uh the location
and then n- no abstract but just only like the titles of the
%uh the projects because
209028: maybe too crowded to for one paper then
210019:
211019: but once you drill down, once you're at the
room
212028: when you do down there then you have more
213028: you know maybe a br- brochure maybe a sheet of
paper overview or details about the projects and so on, then
you can talk to the person and
214002: mm
215028:
216028: and I I really wish because I when I when I walk
out from the Mc- McCurry School and _A_N_T_D group
217028:
218028: I mean I got some hang- a h- handouts
219028: from his group then is kind of like a
220028: bit a piece a here, I mean like
221028: I really wish to have %uh maybe have overall
maybe %uh a shheet of paper have a to the project point of
contact
222005:
223028:
224028: %uh then I, if I need to go back, to maybe call
them
225028: and I know what project who's working on those
projects
226019:
227003: mmm hmm
228028: so it kind of give you a summary of like in
though speech
229028: %uh
230028: smart space I mean like you know John you
know
231029:
232002: mm-hmm
233028: so I could
234028: because I when I got th- th- the piece of paper
it some of it dah duh huh main suh they wait a minute
235028: who should I call
236002: mm
237003: yeah what you can do is you can have a a
doublesided piece of paper too
238028:
239002: yeah
240028: yes
241003: you know so one has the map and and the projects
and stuff and on the other side you can have maybe a little
abstract and the key people
242003: for those demos
243028: mmm hmm
244002: mm mm
245003: so when you walk and you're like this and this
and then you walk in and you have a a a larger explanation of
what's going on and stuff like that.
246028:
247028: that's fine
248028: right
249003: and you can have them in the room and down in
the entertainment center so that they can pick it up down
there on the way in to read about it
250029:
251028:
252003: or if they forget when they're in the room they
can pick it up down there on the way out
253028: mmm hmm mmm hmm
254002: mm
255005:
256005: %uh how +bout this that right %um
257005: %uh lead people to that room to get
258005: one just one sheet, a very detailed sheet, the
rooms the name of project and maybe one one %uh sentence
description of that
259005: and in the entrance of each of the labs %uh one
sheet for each project the project name contact name abstract
of that project's
260019:
261003:
262005: and perhaps a _U_R_L of that, and then people
can collect them you know for each of the project and then
later %uh you know if they want to contact one person and so
you know you go and come and
263029:
264003:
265003:
266005: see all the projects but later say oh which
which project was that or who was this so they can go a
different way then and
267028:
268019: we could to that I think I end up from these
things coming back with like this stack of stuff which I'll
never look at again but I if I had one
269002: "/>that's th- the thing
270003: +right
271005: folder
272019: piece I think the idea of having the *url of the
project is a good one so we could have
273002: mm
274002: yeah
275005: hmm
276019: name of the project contact person *url of the
project then they can get all the data that they need by
typing that in
277005: mmm
278002: mm-hmm
279005: hmm hmm
280002: yeah
281019: and that reduces it to a still a single sheet of
paper which is good
282005: oh sure
283002: i i think before we make the final decisions on
this we need to decide how many projects we're going to
highlight because that's going to scope how we scale this
thing
284019: yes
285005: mm
286006: mmhmm
287003: right
288028:
289006: mmm hmm
290019: do you have any ideas in your
291005:
292005: grew
293019: in the place where you consider yourself are we
consider it by groups or by programs
294002:
295002: uh
296006: well I know we want to cover the major programs
and maybe %um based on what people can volunteer easily we
can start filling in
297006: the demos and see where we are there and see
where people have projects or have given posters and have the
posters or they know
298019: right
299006: it's going to be easy to create a poster type of
a thing and maybe we can flesh it out in that way
300006: