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1024: first I would move the door no no you can't

2002: I know th- th- th- the problem is um you know people don't want to spend the money to do that so

3024: you can't do that

4024: Right I know

5024: and you don't want to be behind the door

6024: I would either

7024: we did this before

8024: where um you use the whole wall

9024: from the door on back you know as your station and this person uses from the window on down as far as you can

10022: mm-hmm

11024: with storage underneath and things like that but you're in opposite corners

12024: it gives you more work surface this way

13002: mm-hmm

14024: and the other way

15024: would be really t- you see the difference it's shortening you desk to be able to stack 'em both on the same side

16024: and have you know storage all down the wall that's like satellite storage where you don't keep it all as part of you workstation

17024: but you %um, I don't know how you're going to put your whiteboard though, I guess over here like that

18024: you have statem- %uh storage across from you

19024: so what what do you think is a better plan for you? to have it as part of your workstation or or and have more work surface

20022: i like the first one better. yeah. because I mean that make me have to stand up to go over there and get the stuff and

21024: the first one

22023: mmm hmm

23024: right

24023: hmm

25022: I like something within reach, because I don't have a lot of stuff anyway

26024: but and ther- the reason why some people go for this is because then both people can face out th- m- the door %um

27022: mmm

28024: but

29024: I don't know other than that I don't really know

30005:

31005: I actually like this one better and then you put a partition a glass partition between so right so each one has its own space and

32024: you do

33024: right here

34024: yeah I mean this would be more private, you could potentially, where the other one is wide open but you have more work surface so it really does depend on your %um

35005: right

36024: own personalities I guess in the room

37024: and that's

38024: you know that's what some of this furniture can do, I mean, normally when you order furniture it's made to order and you have to %um

39002: mmm hmm

40024: obviously pick the sizes and it's technically flexible but

41024: i- i- if you if you order it f- for it to go in one configuration it might be hard to get it

42024: to fit into another configuration even though

43005: mmm hmm

44022: mmm hmm

45002: mmm hmm

46024:

47024: you know its n you it you can move it around the room or move it to another location without damaging it so

48002: %mm

49002: so do you have some line you brought that you thought would be

50024:

51024: well I do I have

52002:

53025:

54022: mean will ^Dave pay for this?

55024:

56024:

57002:

58005:

59005:

60024:

61005:

62024: %aah

63005: you can assume that it is okay

64022:

65005:

66024: me show you

67005:

68024: I was going to try to show the double

69024:

70024: double overhead storage. there's three different types of furniture here in these books. %um the high end furniture

71005:

72024: for individuals but I w- I don't necessarily won't necessarily show you higher end is for people that can have wood veneer furniture

73024: which really has the same eh- i- st- it's the layout

74005: mmm hmm

75024: can be the same only you can use laminate but they just use a wood veneer so these are all things that are on _G_S_A schedule

76022: %mm

77025:

78024:

79002: hmm hmm

80024: and they are wood. but y- since people don't want to pay for wood there's also laminate and I don't know if you can see

81025:

82002: you know that's the line I have

83024: mm-hmm right

84024: it's a little bit of a different brochure but you can obviously do the exact same layouts with wood as you can with a wood grain

85002: %aa

86002: mm-hmm

87024: laminate and there's lots of different sizes and modular pieces now see

88024: this brochure isn't going to show what is going to go in your room you know it's just going to be %uh showing the look of it the style of it

89023: is laminate an %um it's not wood it's it's artificial or t- or it's

90024: it's a picture of wood just like this mm-hmm

91002: yeah it's like +this it's like what mine is like

92023: oh it's like this

93023: it gives the impression but it's on actually

94025: well it may not even have wood grain appearance it may be a taupe color

95024: right

96024: right like the green or the gray

97024: %um oh well, and the feel of it, it feels different than wood also but you can if you want to look at these

98005:

99024: here's a laminate picture of wood and here's actually a wood veneer

100024:

101024: they look %um in the picture they can look fairly similar but they have a different feel to them and

102024: with wood of course of course if it scratches you can have %um a a wood refinisher just fill it in and buff it out and

103023: %mmm %uh

104024:

105024: when laminate scratches you can actually you can fill it in with a pen but you can't really smooth it out you know it's just that's a little bit different

106002: mm-hmm

107024:

108024: ach

109024: ooz un me han pee

110024:

111024: so u- but a lot of things that are available nowadays are different types of storage units like when you're needing more storage different drawer configurations different overhead configurations and %um different ways to create privacy like this low

112024: riser in the room like if this if if these two people were up against the wall now you know when it's both on one size you get less worksurface but you get more privacy

113025: mm-hmm that's nice

114005: not as nice

115022: mm-hmm

116005: right

117024:

118024: and so there's ways to like k- k- k- k- graduate it down so that %um it could be open on the end if you needed to share conferencing but you could also have it high up here where you really are sitting in between people so there's there's lots of different ways to do

119005:

120024: %um

121024: th- their sort of recommendations on how to make a good poster

122024: %um

123024: this these two products are all laminate. so that means these side pieces and everything are u- are this kind of material

124002: %mm

125024: this option here is called design options is a painted

126024: and some people prefer paint and and metal because of the way you can just drag it across the floor it's not going to pull out the little feet that are supporting the desk that go up into the side panel about I don't know two or three inches but really they could crack off because i- it is particle board

127002: mm-hmm

128005: hmm

129024:

130024: dense high density particle board that's underneath this laminate

131024: whereas i- when you have metal it can dent but it's not you know things aren't going to be ripping apart

132024: so some people are tending towards the metal, and in this particular line you can have overhead storage that has two high rather than just one cabinet

133024: you can it can stack double and it's actually a stacking thing that you can take off or add onto after if you you know realize you needed more storage

134023: so some people get the metal painted colors?

135002: hmm

136024: right right it comes in many yeah many different colors %um

137025:

138005:

139024: they really just show black and gray and green here for some reason and like putty you know there's there's a blue %um

140002: I think we're allergic to battleship gray now

141022:

142005:

143024: right. I know. I don't blame you.

144002:

145023:

146025:

147024: %um but i- you can come up with a nice color scheme even with wood work surfaces wood %uh laminate

148024:

149024: work surfaces to offset just like to give it this kind of look even though n that's gray obviously but %um

150002: mm-hmm

151024: but all the components in all these lines are the same. you have normally a thirtysix inch corner a thir- a fortytwo inch corner different sizing in six inch increments

152022: mm-hmm

153024: starting with and then going to rectangular surfaces that are twentyfour wide thirty thirtysix fortytwo all that you know so you can build anything just to fit your room and your needs and in whatever material you happen to like

154022: mm-hmm

155024: so %um

156022: do you have like a local office where people can go and +look +at the %um layout or try on the chair because you know looking at the chair and sitting on it is is totally different you know

157024: mm-hmm

158024: mmm

159005:

160024: yeah well what do we do we

161002: we went to that place down in ^Montgomery ^Village %um

162024: there's one yeah you know what the manufacturers have locations of and also manufacturers like to demo chairs actually on site so more people can sit at them

163024: e- during like a week's time or whatever so chairs is one story lot of times they're brought out to the site for many people to try

164022:

165002:

166024: and %um with furniture like this this actually is in the sho- one of the showrooms that is down like in j- in ^Gaithersburg there's other showrooms in the design center

167002: we got my office and Jean's office that has this s

168024: right their showroom yeah and that's the other thing

169022:

170002: well I wouldn't say my office looks like a showroom b-

171024: well

172023: +no I wouldn't either

173022:

174024:

175024: but you can see the style in real life yeah and seeing it seeing what have bought before is good

176022: y okay

177002: hmm

178022: yeah my main concern is not you know about look actually I mean I I like it look nice but main thing is make the office spacious because I don't like cluttering

179024: right

180024: mm-hmm

181022: an %um

182022: have it real comfortable where I can reach everything and be

183024: right so it should be wrapping around you so that you can reach everything you don't want to have some things way down here and some things way down here

184002: mm

185022: and being real comfortable and be efficient at with what I do

186025: mm-hmm

187024: mm-hmm

188002: and that was one of my requirements I like th- my configuration that %uh I'm in a U and I can reach anything mm

189024: yeah you're in a U shape

190024: three sides. right. and but how did we how did you even fit a U? somehow we just squeezed it in the back

191005: I like that plus privacy plus plus looking nice all together

192002: mm

193025:

194022: hmm

195002: mm

196002: well see I I don't I don't have an ekit- equitably divided office because I'm sharing my office with a guest researcher so he doesn't have as much space

197024: portion

198024:

199024: oh you have all that that helped

200022:

201023: that's right

202005: mm-hmm

203024: yeah but really if your s- if your s- the scale of your desk was just a little bit smaller maybe we could do you could do two maybe it just would have to be a lot smaller work surface but the same shape

204002: mm-hmm

205002: mm-hmm

206002: mm-hmm

207024: that is an option that we didn't I didn't even look at

208002: yeah you could put two little Us

209024: nn yeah I wonder how that would

210024: where you walk around, is your door? did you ever move your? the door just stayed. right.

211002: well we didn't move the door because they didn't want to pay for it

212022:

213005: have a look at it

214002: I'm going to have to bleep that

215022:

216024: it's all part of the exercise

217005:

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