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1S301: I remember because I had my analysis exam

2S302: You have to be on the ball about that stuff .

3S300: December ninth .

4S300: Yes , you do .

5S301: two days late . Yeah because you have to sign up for like a month in advance .

6S300:

7S302: Yeah you have to know basically coming into your senior year .

8S301: I know when I didn't that's what screwed me over a little bit . But %um ,

9S300: Yeah .

10S302: Yeah neither did I . There was no chance for me to ever like retake my subject test . I bombed it though .

11S301: %Oh me too .

12S300: I took it three times .

13S302: But you got what a what ? ^Lee just got this incredible score .

14S301: you took it three times ?

15S300: N- %ah I did all right .

16S302: No w- what was your final score ?

17S301: I hate false modesty . Wow . It was out of nine ninety .

18S300: Nine hundred .

19S302: Yeah he got a nine hundred . Out of what what was it ?

20S300: Even .

21S302: That is so disgusting .

22S300: %Ah but percentile wise it's not that good .

23S302: So what ? Fuck percentile .

24S300: It's like seventyfour , seventyfive .

25S301: Yeah the percentiles are weird because I got

26S302: Because it

27S301: I got like in the high

28S300: Oops .

29S301: I got like almost eight hundred and my percentile was crap .

30S302: Did you ?

31S301: it was so like it was below fifty percent .

32S300:

33S302: I don't remember what my number was but yeah my percentile was below fifty .

34S302: I remember I beat ^Bill .

35S301: Yours probably was pretty good ^Bill . if you got nine hundred your percentile was probably above seventy .

36S300: The test doesn't

37S302: See the thing is that the percentiles don't count because so many ^Masters people come in . Like ^Mohammed ,

38S300: It was like se- it was seventyfour or something .

39S301: %Oh how is that not good ?

40S302: had to take a GRE . ^Mohammed has got a ^Masters from ^Stony ^Brook .

41S302: People people coming in from foreign countries , take have to take their GRE , which bumps up the averages .

42S301: Yeah .

43S300: Right .

44S301: Yeah but so yours is yeah that's really good .

45S300: I don't know how I did that well I mean .

46S302: Like my my professor ^Doctor ^Escher took her GRE I mean coming into here which but she had already had a ^Masters from ^Bonn . So

47S300: Sure . So .

48S301: Yeah .

49S301: No I don't like standardized tests .

50S300: A lot of people do really w- a lot of people get I think actually like

51S300: fifteen percent of people get a nine ninety on it .

52S302: That's disgusting . That was a really bad test . I had a bad night before though .

53S301: Yeah but see so that's yeah that's really good . Like %uh

54S300: It is .

55S301: I wonder how we would do on it now .

56S302: Be kind of fun actually yeah . Although I don't like tests .

57S301: I don't like standardized tests .

58S302: I don't like pointless tests .

59S302: So . I'm very glad to be done with all that kind of although we have the prelim again .

60S301: We're not . We have our prelims .

61S300: Right .

62S302: But you know I'm not worried about the prelim .

63S301: That's like this descending shad- I am .

64S300: Not yet

65S301: Because I I don't know all this stuff very well , and I feel like what I'm doing in my classes isn't isn't helping .

66S302: Isn't helping ? Well we will let's prepare . Like the people that were here over the summer , they prepared . Although next term is going to be hard .

67S302: But we should we should like have like a one night or two nights a month or something ,

68S302: a GRE prep night .

69S302: You know what I mean ?

70S301: that's a good idea .

71S300: It's a really good idea .

72S301: I've been planning on starting to go back through my old prelim exams but

73S302: Not GRE but

74S300: Yeah

75S301: it's just there was so much stuff way . Especially with we spent I think the first half of this semester a- w- all my time went to analysis ,

76S302: Yeah .

77S301: because we met four hours a day every single day of the week .

78S300: Yeah .

79S302: Yeah .

80S300: Yeah .

81S301: And %um ,

82S301: That's the reason why I'd like so comfortable here , and that's also the reason why I haven't done anything for

83S300: Right .

84S301: But it feels like every time I think %oh my gosh I'm behind in this one class and work really hard on that one , then something else falls behind .

85S302: No .

86S300: Exactly .

87S301: Because I've been working really hard on algebra lately , and

88S301: pro seminar has been falling , like slagging like haven't done enough .

89S302: Yeah . We should we should do well . We should have all those prepared ,

90S300: Yeah .

91S302: for ^Harbeiter I think that is important that impress him .

92S301: Yeah I was thinking that .

93S300: Yeah . I

94S302: I I was so glad that the ^German thing did you ?

95S300: I did four I think .

96S302: That that ^German thing panned out because I was like I was looking because ,

97S301: What ^German thing ?

98S302: %uh the ^German exam thing ?

99S301: %Oh yeah .

100S302: Because I was looking I I made this list of stuff I want to get done . I want to finish my vector calc and learn differential equations ,

101S302: I want to learn the geometry which means some algebraic topology %ew ,

102S302: and %uh yeah it was cool . And then %uh ,

103S300: I saw that thing you printed out last night .

104S302: and then I had to keep up in all my classes . And then but if you put ^German learning ^German on top of all that ,

105S302: not learning ^German but practicing my ^German , and taking the exam ,

106S300: Yeah .

107S301: Well I think all you have to do to take the exam though is they give you a paper and you just have to translate it . All you need is a good dictionary .

108S302: Well the thing is is I'm done .

109S300:

110S302: I I got it signed .

111S302: Th- they looked at my transcript and said okay you took ^German . There you go .

112S301: Yeah I need to do that I there my transcript is on its way . So I'm going to I'm going to have her do that as soon as she gets my transcript .

113S300: That is really nice .

114S302: That's good . It is so nice .

115S301: Yeah . But we still have to do one other language , right ?

116S302: Yeah but think of it one of them is gone .

117S301: You don't have to do it .

118S301: Yeah , and you don't have to do it right now . I mean , most people don't do theirs during their first year because there is just so much other stuff ,

119S302: Yeah .

120S302: Yeah . I just wanted to get mine out of the way because I knew my ^German now .

121S300: Right .

122S301: hanging over your head .

123S301: Yeah .

124S300: S-

125S301: You are you just travel for a summer . Spend a summer in ^Germany and then then you'll do perfectly on it .

126S302: That would be nice .

127S300: Yeah .

128S302: I don't ever want to although I don't want to spend all my summers at home though .

129S301: You do ? So you are not going to be here this summer ?

130S302: Yeah . Especially this one with ^Lisa having the baby .

131S300: Sure .

132S301: Wow .

133S300: She's due .

134S302: June . Eleventh or something like that yeah . Right between her birthday and mine .

135S300: June .

136S301: %Aw .

137S300: That's awesome .

138S301: So you're not . Are you going to so you don't take the fellowship this summer then ?

139S301: how does that all work ?

140S302: Well I mean your sister only has her first baby once in your lifetime .

141S301: %Oh yeah , no definitely . I'm just wondering how that works in terms of the fellowship thing .

142S302: So yeah I won't take it you are guaranteed it once .

143S301: Right .

144S302: So I just won't take it this year .

145S302: I might want to try to come back and like teach the latest course or something like that .

146S301: Uhhuh .

147S302: I really would like to do that . I like to go home for May and June , because we get out what obscenely early in May ,

148S300: S- yeah like

149S302: and go home for May and June come back in July and teach the last course and be here

150S301: Yeah and since you don't have furniture here and stuff it doesn't matter . You could just leave .

151S302: Right no I can just pack up and leave .

152S300: Right .

153S302: You know locks if I need to leave stuff here just leave it in the Math Department . ^Jason ^James did that . There is storage rooms there .

154S301: Yeah .

155S301: I mean and there are people that have storage space . I'm sure RJ would let you .

156S302: Yeah . Yeah I'd have like two boxes .

157S301: Yeah , that's nothing . You can leave it in your fucking office you know ?

158S300: Yeah it's in

159S300: You can leave it anywhere .

160S302: Yeah exactly .

161S301: Yeah .

162S302: Yeah . So that would be good and but ,

163S302: it the thing is is the weather th- that I'm thinking about . ^Jameson my cousin ,

164S302: who lives in in out in ^York says it is nastiest in July and August

165S301: Uhhuh .

166S300: July is terrible .

167S302: Yeah so I I'd really

168S300: August is terrible , early August .

169S301: What do you mean nasty ?

170S302: Like really really hot .

171S300: Like

172S300: a hundred and twenty with the heat index .

173S301: You guys .

174S300: No it it was hotter here than it was in ^Georgia this summer .

175S301: Why ?

176S300: It it's because it's a city .

177S302: Because it is a city .

178S300: Like

179S300: it's

180S300: it was hideous there were days when

181S300: I mean

182S302: The asphalt and all the cement just traps the heat .

183S300: It it's sad .

184S300: It's sad I mean the bridge buckled one day because of the heat just

185S300: started melting the asphalt . I mean

186S302: Melted it .

187S301:

188S300: bad stuff happens .

189S300: I mean you

190S300: turn on the news and you hear you know

191S300: fifty people died of heat exhaustion today in the city of ^Philadelphia .

192S300: I mean

193S302: Yeah it is ver- so that doesn't happen where I live . Where I live ,

194S300: it it's

195S300: it's nasty .

196S300: It's really nasty .

197S302: it was eightyfive degrees today %oh my gosh give me a popsicle .

198S300:

199S301: It was seventyfive today . Can you believe that ?

200S302: It is so nice out there .

201S300: It's it's close to seventyfive . Tomorrow's like fifty again .

202S302: I mean what is up with this ? I know yeah it is supposed to get chilly by Tuesday .

203S301: The week before ^Thanksgiving .

204S302: I know .

205S300: It it could ic-

206S301: It's warmer than it is in ^Geor- %uh , I guess it's not but it's as warm as ^Georgia .

207S300: Last ^Thanksgiving it snowed .

208S300: It was snowing hard at home in ^South ^Jersey which means

209S301: I'm telling you guys I brought this weather with me .

210S302: This is bad though . I mean like everything is blowing away . They need rain .

211S301: Why is this bad ?

212S300: Yes the rain situation we're under drought warnings and all kinds of stuff .

213S301: %Oh well rain yeah , but not cold .

214S302: There was a drought where I lived and it is finally being broken now . But yeah

215S301: I love the rain .

216S302: Is it been an hour yet ?

217S300: It's been like fifty minutes .

218S301: What time is it ?

219S302: Okay . Because I just want to make sure I don- I have a student coming at at threethirty .

220S301: I have someone coming to my apartment at three thirty .

221S302: Do you ? %Oh well we are close to your apartment though .

222S300:

223S301: I'm so close to my apartment .

224S302: ^Bill and I can bomb back to the %uh the office and .

225S301: I'm right I'm right next door to my apartment .

226S300: Exactly .

227S302: What am I going to do to these these people want to know what they did wrong on the exam . How do I tell them that

228S302: I don't know what I want to tell I want to tell them basically it is okay that you failed the this exam because it is theory ,

229S302: but then again it is not okay that they failed this exam .

230S301: It's not okay that they failed the exam , no .

231S300: It's not okay . You fail an exam .

232S302: I have one of them I got a fortysix . She dropped back from one of you guy's classes ,

233S301: What was her name ?

234S302: %uh , I'll tell you later . And %uh %um ^Emily is her name . And %uh she got a fortysix out of a hundred and two on this exam .

235S301: %Oh , yeah okay .

236S300: Okay .

237S301: I don't know .

238S302: And she wants to meet with me on Monday . What does she want to I'd ask her you know , If you wanted to talk about the grading she doesn't care about the grading . She believes believes she deserves she got the score she got ,

239S302: so what are we supposed to do ? In an hour teach her derivatives and integrals ? No .

240S301: Well %um , go through the problems that she missed .

241S301: Or all of them , I guess and I mean just talk about you know ,

242S302: Yeah .

243S302: Obviously .

244S301: see if you can help her understand those , because ultimately I don't think she can drop anymore .

245S302: No she can't .

246S300: No .

247S301: So she's going to have to learn the stuff and the I mean she doesn't want to get an F on her transcript so .

248S300: Right .

249S301: Yeah , %yuh I mean I would try to start

250S301: teaching her derivatives and the new rules and you know .

251S301: you can't maybe if she want maybe you should refer her to tutoring so- somewhere where she can make an appointment twice a week

252S301: to go in . Because I mean I know at ^Georgia and this was my job , was they had

253S300: Exactly .

254S301: you know they had these tutors there , and the people about this time of the semester the people who realize we can't drop anymore and we have to do well ,

255S301: they would sign up for every week , like two appointments a week , and I'd teach the same person and

256S302: Right .

257S301: So by the end of the semester they could usually get a A or a B on the final , even if they

258S301: were choking it but

259S302: And I'd be willing to do that but I have like five students that that have done this .

260S301: No , I'm saying you can't do that , you have to refer them to ^Tutoring Center .

261S300: Right .

262S302: %Oh . That is true .

263S301: That's what I'm saying . They have that . They have tutoring at ^Penn and .

264S301: If it's a student that's going to need that much help . I mean if it was someone who just missed a couple things and you just need to go over it , that's fine .

265S302: Right .

266S300: Exactly .

267S301: But if it's someone that you have to teach them derivatives and integrals , you need to refer them so they can get

268S301: two days a week or however much time they need to really one on one to really understand it .

269S302: Right . One on one stuff .

270S300: Right .

271S302: I I would like to you know I would fo-

272S302: for what they are going to pay a tutor I would sign up for that . Not for my students . Because I'd feel kind of weird doing it for my students .

273S301: You can make twentyfive bucks an hour .

274S300: Uhhuh .

275S302: Exactly . I would sign up for that for like your students .

276S300: Yeah .

277S300: I'd sign up for your students .

278S302: Yeah .

279S301: Yeah , you can't you actually can't tutor your own students .

280S302: Exactly . ^Bill you want to tutor my students ?

281S300:

282S302: I'd be like okay I'm sorry you need a personal tutor .

283S300: Great .

284S302: May I recommend

285S300:

286S301: Yeah , actually you can totally do that . That's totally fine , you can just say

287S302: So you guys want to make some %uh some money ? I'll I'll recommend that all of mine need a s- need a tutor .

288S301: I don't because I don't h-

289S300:

290S302: I think you all need tutoring .

291S300: We'll split all the income . It'll be great .

292S301: I personally ? %Um I have t-

293S301: I don't have enough time like I don't wa- I money and time is

294S301: time is starting to weigh higher for me .

295S302: Ye- because we make enough money .

296S300: Yeah .

297S301: But yeah , I make enough money to pay my bills , and that's all I really care about right now .

298S300: Yeah .

299S301: But I mean like , if next year I will want to , when I have more time .

300S300: Right .

301S300: Mhm .

302S300: So is your final going to be theoretical or computational or any idea ?

303S302: No idea .

304S301: Is it multiple choice ?

305S302: No .

306S300:

307S302: Unless we have unless we have to do the same final . We haven't been doing common exams ,

308S302: ^Klee and whatever y- the other professor is .

309S301: Have not ?

310S302: No . He writes the exam up the night before , for his class .

311S302: You know it is really good it is because the exam is written for the class . So whatever he has been covering , puts on the exam . Bless you .

312S300:

313S300: Thank you .

314S301: God bless you .

315S302: %Um so but if they have to take a common final I don't know .

316S302: Because the other class is just nuts . And the ma- amount of ^Maple they do ? %Oh we did ^Lagrange ^Multipliers on ^Maple last night .

317S300:

318S301: %Oh I'm so glad I'm not doing ^Maple help . I don't know anything about ^Maple .

319S302: ^Lagrange ^Multipliers people .

320S302: How do you well the program was there how do you tell if it is a max or a min ?

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